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	<title>Comments on: Say no to the police state&#8230;</title>
	<link>http://www.denyerec.co.uk/posts/225</link>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nile Istic</title>
		<link>http://www.denyerec.co.uk/posts/225#comment-6218</link>
		<author>Nile Istic</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2005 13:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.denyerec.co.uk/posts/225#comment-6218</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kill em all, let God sort em out&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Denyerec</title>
		<link>http://www.denyerec.co.uk/posts/225#comment-6217</link>
		<author>Denyerec</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I can almost agree with you regarding handing out junk, but they're not selling a service, they're not trying to get you into a nightclub. They're trying to inform the public of the problems and frightening consequences of a nationwide ID system as proposed.
Further, the "Pro ID" campaigners had been allowed to set up and chat. You can bet your ass they had leaflets too and no-one worried about it. Why not? They'd most likely paid for a pitch or just negotiated with the police.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So if you can't afford to pay for a spot, or don't have friends in high places, are you not allowed to voice the fair and balanced opposing view to an advertised scheme?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You must have stopped reading before the foot of the article, I quote:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite="The Register"&gt;
The Home Office confirmed that it too was handing out leaflets. One covering information about the new e-passports, and the other with details of the new photograph standards guidelines. "The purpose of the roadshow is to inform the public," a spokesman told us.
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&lt;p&gt;Funny that.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can almost agree with you regarding handing out junk, but they&#8217;re not selling a service, they&#8217;re not trying to get you into a nightclub. They&#8217;re trying to inform the public of the problems and frightening consequences of a nationwide ID system as proposed.
Further, the &#8220;Pro ID&#8221; campaigners had been allowed to set up and chat. You can bet your ass they had leaflets too and no-one worried about it. Why not? They&#8217;d most likely paid for a pitch or just negotiated with the police.</p>

<p>So if you can&#8217;t afford to pay for a spot, or don&#8217;t have friends in high places, are you not allowed to voice the fair and balanced opposing view to an advertised scheme?</p>

<p>You must have stopped reading before the foot of the article, I quote:</p>

<blockquote cite="The Register">
The Home Office confirmed that it too was handing out leaflets. One covering information about the new e-passports, and the other with details of the new photograph standards guidelines. &#8220;The purpose of the roadshow is to inform the public,&#8221; a spokesman told us.
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<p>Funny that.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Martiankeeper</title>
		<link>http://www.denyerec.co.uk/posts/225#comment-6216</link>
		<author>Martiankeeper</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Actually the shopping centre is a private building, owned by a private organisation with their own security staff.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They have imposed a local bylaw prohibiting anyone from distributing leaflets to shoppers in the Metro Centre (the shopping centre).
I personally applaud this .. I resent the amount of public "junk mail", and I am normally bombarded with about 5 free leaflets, and at least 2-3 free newspapers and/or information brochures every single day on my walk to work.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They were handing out leaflets, so they Metro Security staff asked them to leave, the Police were asked to attend to make sure that there was no breach of the peace.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Where is this big conspiracy you seem to be on about??
If some bugger comes round to my house and tries to hand out leaflets on my front door, I want to be able to call the police and tell them to get lost .. it's a private building, so why can't they?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think the reason leaflets are innapropriate for shoppers, is because people are there to SHOP .. I for one don't want to be harrassed by anyone if I'm trying to get shopping done .. that includes anyone handing out leaflets, regardless of their intentions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(having said all this .. I would have been interested to know what the reaction would have been if they hadn't had leaflets with them .. would they still have been thrown out if they had simply stood there and protested?)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the shopping centre is a private building, owned by a private organisation with their own security staff.</p>

<p>They have imposed a local bylaw prohibiting anyone from distributing leaflets to shoppers in the Metro Centre (the shopping centre).
I personally applaud this .. I resent the amount of public &#8220;junk mail&#8221;, and I am normally bombarded with about 5 free leaflets, and at least 2-3 free newspapers and/or information brochures every single day on my walk to work.</p>

<p>They were handing out leaflets, so they Metro Security staff asked them to leave, the Police were asked to attend to make sure that there was no breach of the peace.</p>

<p>Where is this big conspiracy you seem to be on about??
If some bugger comes round to my house and tries to hand out leaflets on my front door, I want to be able to call the police and tell them to get lost .. it&#8217;s a private building, so why can&#8217;t they?</p>

<p>I think the reason leaflets are innapropriate for shoppers, is because people are there to SHOP .. I for one don&#8217;t want to be harrassed by anyone if I&#8217;m trying to get shopping done .. that includes anyone handing out leaflets, regardless of their intentions.</p>

<p>(having said all this .. I would have been interested to know what the reaction would have been if they hadn&#8217;t had leaflets with them .. would they still have been thrown out if they had simply stood there and protested?)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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